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How many RWKW do you have with what mods?

Postby speed » Mon May 12, 2014 6:41 pm

Hi all,
Just thought it would be good to see what power you have from doing what mods?

List your model, dyno figure and mods to achieve that power.

Mine is close to stock and has not seen a dyno so I won't be participating, yet!

Saying that I'm sure others would also like to know how to increase their power output and it would give us an appreciation of the work done (and money spent) as we could see the power that those mods give.


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Re: How many RWKW do you have with what mods?

Postby sailaholic » Mon May 12, 2014 7:24 pm

Waste of time unfortunately as dyno aren't accurate between units.


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Re: How many RWKW do you have with what mods?

Postby StanTheMan » Mon May 12, 2014 7:46 pm

sailaholic wrote:Waste of time unfortunately as dyno aren't accurate between units.


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do you have to be so brutally honest?

its about polishing Nobs
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Re: How many RWKW do you have with what mods?

Postby speed » Mon May 12, 2014 8:01 pm

sailaholic wrote:Waste of time unfortunately as dyno aren't accurate between units.
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Just thought it would be good to see what mods give what power.
Sure Dyno A may yield a different result to Dyno B but it's still gives us noobs an idea of effective mods.

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sailaholic wrote:Waste of time unfortunately as dyno aren't accurate between units.
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do you have to be so brutally honest?
its about polishing Nobs


How else do you measure the power gain from any given mod? Feel, acceleration times?
I'm not fussy, just want to know what to do next...
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Re: How many RWKW do you have with what mods?

Postby NitroDann » Mon May 12, 2014 8:03 pm

How about this..

122mph trap speed.

Na6, GT2560r, poncam eequivalents, nitrodann turbo setup,megasquirt 2 PNP, nitrodann tune and e85, fuel system to match.

Dynod at 250rwkw for those who want to play it that way.
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Re: How many RWKW do you have with what mods?

Postby StanTheMan » Mon May 12, 2014 8:07 pm

However

allow me to polish my nob first. not necessarily hardest.....but none the less. First.
turn up the volume.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN4IY68NVwo



so let me think what that was.

errr....

cams 272 deg
adaptronic. can't recall what it was called
some fancy adjustable cam sprockets.
Wide Mania intake.
geanie headers
2 1/4 inch exsaust



don't recall many of the settings. like intake & exsaust on the cam sprokets.

but above 5k rpm....it was poetry

what this doesn't tell you is that she was a total cow to drive in slow traffic.

I eventually ripped out the Adaptronic & ran it on the Standard ECU. Bit rough on idle .....but she was soooo sweet. prolly lost between10-15 rwkw. but never put her on the dyno to check.

but If I was to do it again.....Id get cams for sure....the right cams though
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Re: How many RWKW do you have with what mods?

Postby sailaholic » Mon May 12, 2014 8:18 pm

Ok let me give you an example. I put xyz in and got 100kw, the next person comes along and has fitted xyz plus ab and make 98 kW on a different dyno.

How does that info become useful it just confused things. Dynos can read 15 kW difference on a naturally aspirated mx5 with similar mods.


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Re: How many RWKW do you have with what mods?

Postby Dweezle » Mon May 12, 2014 8:22 pm

Well we have had my brothers na6 on 3 different dynos.
84rwkw, 85rwkw and 86rwkw.

I think that is pretty darn close especially for different days??

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Re: How many RWKW do you have with what mods?

Postby manga_blue » Mon May 12, 2014 9:29 pm

Max speed is a good pointer. Mine maxes out at 194kmh on a logger at Philip Island on a calm day at 20C, which works out at around 83-84rwkw.

Stock NA8 block, balanced, NB pistons, original Loch Stewart CAI. 4-2-1 into a 2.25" exhaust, DIY ports clean-up and mild chamber reshaping, Performance Springs valve springs, OEM Mazda ECU with remapped fuel and timing (EPROM, socketted), 7600rpm limit - home tuned with a Bosch wideband and Innovate data logger.

Temperature is a huge factor. That's partly why dyno readings are so variable. This car maxes out at 155kmh at Wakefield on a cool morning and 145kmh on a hot afternoon.
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Re: How many RWKW do you have with what mods?

Postby MrRevhead » Mon May 12, 2014 9:34 pm

Some basic figures to use as a 'rule of thumb'

There are of course, too many variables to also factor in (current engine health, tune etc etc)

http://solomiata.com/CheapHP.html
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Re: How many RWKW do you have with what mods?

Postby NitroDann » Mon May 12, 2014 11:15 pm

The most accurate HP measure is max speed over a given distance.

This is why many people use trap speed, as in my example.

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Re: How many RWKW do you have with what mods?

Postby johnnyreble » Mon May 12, 2014 11:46 pm

What a bunch of tossers .. why can't you just answer the question or have you never been to a dyno..
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Re: How many RWKW do you have with what mods?

Postby johnnyreble » Mon May 12, 2014 11:53 pm

However I have a NA6 supercharged making 190rwhp
You can get a lot more power from a Turbo,
But Turbo's are a common as Holdens I wanted to try something that evry man and his dog didn't have

Just my opinion .. :)
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Re: How many RWKW do you have with what mods?

Postby davekmoore » Mon May 12, 2014 11:56 pm

Old motor 174rwkw.

New motor with way more mods and 150rwkw feels way quicker.
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Re: How many RWKW do you have with what mods?

Postby NitroDann » Tue May 13, 2014 12:24 am

johnnyreble wrote:What a bunch of tossers .. why can't you just answer the question or have you never been to a dyno..


Yeah, this morning, but nothing beats trap speed over the quarter.

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speed wrote:If I was to do it again, I wouldn't even consider the supercharger.


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