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Who has replaced the bushes on your car?

Postby StanTheMan » Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:42 pm

I have replaced them.
I installed the cam adjustable super pros.

I installed them myself. I had a dodgy day. However without the help of other dodgy helpers, in particular Ampz & bigdog. I would never have been able to complete the whole lot. Or at least, not in 1 full day.

We had a lot of fun. 95% of the right tools. But at the end of the day. I was totally knackered.

If I was to do it again.

Don’t waste your money on adjustable camber kit for a road car. Its just not required. If your baby sees the track…..I would consider it again…..but I probably wouldn’t bother.

Next time around I would seriously consider OEM bushes over Super pros. They are too stiff for my liking. However. I’m getting old & my King’s & koni’s are well past their used by date.
I paid $565 for my kit in a group purchase a few years ago at MX5 Mania. Last time I looked they are avail cheaper now. The OEM kit would be around $900.


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Postby Steampunk » Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:25 pm

Mr Starlet, GP14, Muzza2 and myself replaced all the bushes on Mr Starlet's car and most of the bushes on GP14's.
Takes a solid day for each car if you have at least 2 people, a car hoist, a hydraulic press and all the right tools.

The only things that were difficult were the differential arm bushes, all the others were relatively straighforward.

They bought their kits from 949 Racing over in the US and they were the Energy Suspension bushes.
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Postby Fatty » Tue Dec 09, 2008 5:25 pm

i got the superpro bushes from mx5mania. you can also get them from mx5 factory in ringwood, or autobarn eltham. the price has come down a bit, it might pay you to give them all a call to compare prices.

i got the standard superpros, not the cam adjustable ones. the car handles a LOT better these days, but similar to what stantheman said, i find the ride is fairly harsh. not as comfortable as it used to be. but then again i'm running tein coilovers, they might not be so bad on softer / standard suspension.

i had mine installed by centreline suspension in thomastown. they really know what they are doing, and have worked on a lot of mx5s .

regarding the 949 Racing / Energy Suspension bushes, aren't those ones even firmer that the superpros? it would be interesting to get some thoughts from people who have fitted them.

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Postby fattima » Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:47 pm

I fitted the Superpro bushes myself. Purchased the bushes from Autobarn in Eltham (they give a discount to MX5 club members) from memory they were a bit over $500. I borrowed the bush removal tool from the MX5 club and got to work with help from Wun ( I think he wanted to see how much they weigh ). It is a pain of a job but very doable at home if you have the bush removal tool or a press, if using the bush removal tool you would want an air compressor and a rattle gun to make life easier. Jokes aside it was helpful to have the extra pair of hands, thanks Wun!
I notice the 949 racing ones are a split design, that will make them easier to install than the Superpro bushes.

I have not found the ride that harsh to be honest, I know fatty has but he is just soft :wink:

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Postby Juffa » Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:59 pm

Yep, have put super-pro bushes on 2 of my 5s. I actually found them to be more compliant than the original Mazda rubber ones. Maybe the old rubber bushes had gone hard over time.

Anyway, as other people have said one person can do it, but two is better. Access to a press, car stands and good set of metric sockets (plus a few ales) is a must.

oh yeah, don't forget to allow for the cost of a 4 wheel alignment as part of the upgrade.

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Postby StanTheMan » Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:05 pm

opinion on ride is definitely subjective.
But I think we all agree its a big job to do yourself. I think Mania charge about $300 or $350 to do the job for you. Someone on here( can't recall who it was) did the whole lot with a chisel & hammer.....It took him all weekend just to do the rears. I gotta say.....I take my hat off for that effort. That's just totally insane. My little press for $80 or $90 was worth its weight in gold.
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Postby fattima » Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:11 pm

One other thing, you may need to budget for new alignment bolts. I have a NA and mine were stuffed, Mazda changed the bolt design apparently and now supply the newer design.

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Postby Locutus » Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:28 pm

if you are concerned about ride quality i suggest you find a forum member with 'upgraded' bushes who is willing to take you for a ride.

STM was kind enough to let me take patchy out for a spin and i didn't find her suspension harsh at all.

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Postby bensale » Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:35 pm

Fattima, did you find much difference after changing them over, I ask you as I know you've kept the OEM suspension?
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Postby StanTheMan » Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:54 pm

Locutus wrote:if you are concerned about ride quality i suggest you find a forum member with 'upgraded' bushes who is willing to take you for a ride.

STM was kind enough to let me take patchy out for a spin and i didn't find her suspension harsh at all.



I guess that confirms it :lol: :lol: :lol: I'm soft & old. :oops: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby fattima » Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:31 pm

bensale wrote:Fattima, did you find much difference after changing them over, I ask you as I know you've kept the OEM suspension?


The handling of the car is better, but some of my bushes were well and truly past their best. I didn't find them much if at all harsher from a ride point of view.

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Postby StanTheMan » Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:03 am

Stefan flaming the crap out of the old bushes:
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Then just EASILY pumping them out with $88 worth goodness. Talk about a time saver!
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Burning the old rubber gets rid of the outer lip of the bush. It also makes it easier to cut off once its been burnt. It also allows the bush to be removed cleaner. As in less old rubber stays behind once the bush has been pushed out.
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Postby Juffa » Sat Dec 13, 2008 4:05 pm

60,000 Km is not excessive Ks on Koni shocks and they can rebuilt if required. Some people find the koni/king setup quite hard. People have reported a good compromise using koni/OEM springs. I have had the koni/king setup and am now running Tein flex, adjustable sway bars and super-pro bushes. I live in the SE suburbs if you want to see what my setup feels like.

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Postby Dave » Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:52 pm

1red5 wrote:Mr Starlet, GP14, Muzza2 and myself replaced all the bushes on Mr Starlet's car and most of the bushes on GP14's.
Takes a solid day for each car if you have at least 2 people, a car hoist, a hydraulic press and all the right tools.

The only things that were difficult were the differential arm bushes, all the others were relatively straighforward.

They bought their kits from 949 Racing over in the US and they were the Energy Suspension bushes.


Hi Mr Starlet and GP14... I would love to get some feedback on the ease of fitting and quality of ride with the 949 Racing bushes. There are obviously conflicting opinions of the SuperPro's, however no one has to my knowledge done a write-up on the cheaper ebay option... really appreciate it if you can assist! :wink:

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Postby Steampunk » Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:57 pm

Send them a PM Dave, they don't frequent the forums too often these days.
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