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how do we know what 90db is i know mines loud but there's 2 kinds of loud its like a sounds system powered by rotel versus akai. there's noisey and there's loud.
answered my own question: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decibel
dB (SPL) Source (with distance)
194 Theoretical limit for a sound wave at 1 atmosphere environmental pressure; pressure waves with a greater intensity behave as shock waves.
188 Space Shuttle liftoff as heard from launch tower (less than 100 feet) [1] [2].
180 Krakatoa volcano explosion at 1 mile (1.6 km) in air [3]
160 M1 Garand being fired at 1 meter (3 ft); Space Shuttle liftoff as heard from launch pad perimeter (approx. 1500 feet) [4] [5].
150 Jet engine at 30 m (100 ft)
140 Low Calibre Rifle being fired at 1m (3 ft); the engine of a Formula One car at 1 meter (3 ft)
130 Threshold of pain; civil defense siren at 100 ft (30 m)
120 Space Shuttle from three mile mark, closest one can view launch.[6] [7]. Train horn at 1 m (3 ft). Many foghorns produce around this volume.
120 Concert of music, louder if indoors.
110 Football stadium during kickoff at 50 yard line; chainsaw at 1 m (3 ft)
100 Jackhammer at 2 m (7 ft); inside discothèque
90 Loud factory, heavy truck at 1 m (3 ft), kitchen blender
80 Vacuum cleaner at 1 m (3 ft), curbside of busy street, PLVI of city
70 Busy traffic at 5 m (16 ft)
60 Office or restaurant inside
50 Quiet restaurant inside
40 Residential area at night
30 Theatre, no talking
20 Whispering
10 Human breathing at 3 m (10 ft)
0 Threshold of human hearing (with healthy ears); sound of a mosquito flying 3 m (10 ft) away
answered my own question: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decibel
dB (SPL) Source (with distance)
194 Theoretical limit for a sound wave at 1 atmosphere environmental pressure; pressure waves with a greater intensity behave as shock waves.
188 Space Shuttle liftoff as heard from launch tower (less than 100 feet) [1] [2].
180 Krakatoa volcano explosion at 1 mile (1.6 km) in air [3]
160 M1 Garand being fired at 1 meter (3 ft); Space Shuttle liftoff as heard from launch pad perimeter (approx. 1500 feet) [4] [5].
150 Jet engine at 30 m (100 ft)
140 Low Calibre Rifle being fired at 1m (3 ft); the engine of a Formula One car at 1 meter (3 ft)
130 Threshold of pain; civil defense siren at 100 ft (30 m)
120 Space Shuttle from three mile mark, closest one can view launch.[6] [7]. Train horn at 1 m (3 ft). Many foghorns produce around this volume.
120 Concert of music, louder if indoors.
110 Football stadium during kickoff at 50 yard line; chainsaw at 1 m (3 ft)
100 Jackhammer at 2 m (7 ft); inside discothèque
90 Loud factory, heavy truck at 1 m (3 ft), kitchen blender
80 Vacuum cleaner at 1 m (3 ft), curbside of busy street, PLVI of city
70 Busy traffic at 5 m (16 ft)
60 Office or restaurant inside
50 Quiet restaurant inside
40 Residential area at night
30 Theatre, no talking
20 Whispering
10 Human breathing at 3 m (10 ft)
0 Threshold of human hearing (with healthy ears); sound of a mosquito flying 3 m (10 ft) away
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dangeradam wrote:how do we know what 90db is i know mines loud but there's 2 kinds of loud its like a sounds system powered by rotel versus akai. there's noisey and there's loud.
For what it's worth, having done one of these years ago, they took the reading 5m from the rear of the car, with engine at a constant 3000rpm...
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lil_mike wrote:phatMX wrote:throttle control. Since there are timed events your not going to be wanting to spin the wheels. It'll be a good chance for you to exercise the right foot.
Edit: you could also get one of those exhaust restrictor things that reduce the noise your exhuast makes.
yeah i know i'm going to have to control the throttle more but, i dont think it will help much because as soon as you accelerate just that fraction too much it really kicks over. i guess i could just get some semi's for the day? hmmm.
those exhaust restrictors would really hinder the car down low. i'm hoping not to use one of those as i need as little back pressure as possible with the rotary, otherwise i have absolutely no torque in the low rpm (even lees than normal)
Mate there is absolutely no grip on 90% of the surfaces at Mt Cotton so the less power you have the better most of the time. Put a restrictor in.
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lil_mike wrote:how much is a restrictor? and where can they be purchased?
I think I'll be looking for a restrictor as well, not liking my chances on passing the check

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Mr Starlet wrote:lil_mike wrote:how much is a restrictor? and where can they be purchased?
I think I'll be looking for a restrictor as well, not liking my chances on passing the check
You'll be absolutely fine.
A chainsaw is 94d and an increase in 4 d is a doubling in volume (IIRC from grade 6). I'd think that even the rotary at 4000rpm would be under the limit.
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The noise regulations are no different to the legal limit. While I was working there, measurements were taken from various points of the facility and then suspect cars individually tested. Testing was as per ADRs. So if your car is road legal, then you won't have a problem. If it isn't road legal, then just drive it accordingly and you won't have a problem. Stick it on wot for second on end, and we will all have a problem as we may not get invited back.
As a guide, our MX5 is just within. The Charade is smack on the limit. Interestingly the MX5 sounds louder than the Charade. We have had cars that are well over the legal limit, but have managed to let them run if they are dríven sensibly. If your car is as powerful as you say, then you will not have a problem turning the wheels at 3500rpm with 15% throttle.
As a guide, our MX5 is just within. The Charade is smack on the limit. Interestingly the MX5 sounds louder than the Charade. We have had cars that are well over the legal limit, but have managed to let them run if they are dríven sensibly. If your car is as powerful as you say, then you will not have a problem turning the wheels at 3500rpm with 15% throttle.
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lil_mike wrote:Cal wrote:Just put a quiet exhaust on it and never have to worry about it again.
Cal.
no need to worry bout it, i forgot i havent paid my membership yetso i didnt get in
oh well. cant be helped.
That can be fixed with a quick direct deposit.
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