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i have kings on kyb agx. they are fine. i have heard rumours though that king springs will loosen up and not be as firm after a while. i've had mine in for a year now and im still happy with them. cant say much cause i have never owned a car with eibachs but i would say they would feel the same...if not the eibachs might be a bit stiffer? in the end i think you are just paying extra for a reputable brand name.

Call me biased, but I seriously don't think the Eibachs really justify its price, especially compared to Kings and also if you are setting it up with the AGXs.

For the price of the Eibachs you can get some Teins, or another premium Japanese brand that is excellent quality but relatively unknown in Aus, called KGMM. Hell...you can even get some Tanabe springs, they're even cheaper than Teins or KGMM.

Yes, I am biased

yes...but remember just because it has a \"brand label\" on it doesn't mean it is a superior product. generally anything to do with automotive products - you get what you pay for, but for springs i really don't think it matters (coilovers is a different story). i think it just comes down to personal preference and what you have in your wallet. i have kings, my mate has teins and honestly i can't tell the difference. so i would suggest the kings on the agx purely because you save yourself $200.

JSE wrote:so i would suggest the kings on the agx purely because you save yourself $200.

I concur.

I would definitely choose Kings too. If someone is prepared to fork out the money for Eibachs though, there are other (probably better) alternatives like the Teins or KGMM was what I meant

Can't speak for the KYB's, but Eibachs are definately superior to Kings on the Koni dampers.

I've dríven both setups back to back, and have even converted a few Kings owners to Eibachs. Worth the extra - you definately get what you pay for.

The Eibachs are slightly softer in rates, but are a far more compliant ride. They are cold wound from a high quality alloy wire and factor set, and they should never sag. Indeed, I think they come with a million mile warranty in the United States.

The length of the springs is fairly close - you should notice next to no difference between either.

deez wrote:If someone is prepared to fork out the money for Eibachs though, there are other (probably better) alternatives like the Teins or KGMM was what I meant

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The Eibachs are better, but that's not to say the Kings are rubbish. You'll be happy with either - it's just that'll be slightly happier if you spend more (of course, your wallet may not be happier).

i paid $1300 for my kyb/king setup. installed.

I got new Konis fitted to the wifes XTrail just after Christmas by the local Fulcrum guys. They were ordered 4 months before and we had to wait for the shocks to come in. I have bought suspension from this one guy for the last 15 years and I have learnt to trust his opinion.

I asked him what he would recommend for the MX5? (mine is obviously not stock, but they had no idea what was in it)

His position on road springs for the MX5 (and most other Japanese cars) was the Eibach is the only spring to recommend. He will sell Kings and Lovell, but recommend the Eibach as the quality is great as he doesn't get stiffed with returns or partial failures (like sagging I suppose). In his opinion the TIENs were overspecced and too stiff for the road, but was happy to sell them if the customer really wanted them as the markup was good.

I have no personal experience with Kings, Tiens or similar so I will not comment personally about longevity or ride differences.

I am very happy with the Eibachs on my car, but I only have the stockies to compare them with. If I hadn't got such a good deal on my Eibachs, I would have bought springs from K-Mac. Very good reports on their product from friends in Sydney.