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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 3:23 am
by vrmmmpshhh
sorry cant help you with NSW.
when i was getting a road worthy check after compliancing my car here in SA my Japanese bilsteins even at the highest perch did not pass. The inspector asked me if i have coilovers and to just use them to raise the car.
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 10:03 pm
by Matty
If you're talking about the legality of adjustable strut-top camber plates, it's an irrelevant point because the MX-5 doesn't have them nor does it need them. The MX-5 has double wishbone suspension with full factory adjustment of the camber and caster provided at the lower wishbone. The top of the shock (NB not strut) does not do any locating of the wheel, other than vertically.
The Flex does however have adjustable shock tube length and adjustable spring preload, either of which possibly might be illegal, though it'd be more to do with the set ride height and available travel (I believe, don't quote me).
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 7:20 am
by JBT
Matty wrote:The Flex does however have adjustable shock tube length......
That's the reason they aren't road legal - as told to me by Fulcrum reps.
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 10:44 am
by Matty
JBT wrote:Matty wrote:The Flex does however have adjustable shock tube length......
That's the reason they aren't road legal - as told to me by Fulcrum reps.
Any reason given why?
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 3:57 pm
by AJ
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 4:24 pm
by JBT
Matty wrote:Any reason given why?
At the time, yes. It was along the lines of the bottom part of the adjustable shock tube not meeting Qld Transport (and ADR?) rules. OK for a track only car though.
I can't remember the exact reason because I was so disappointed my eyes probably started to glaze over and I could only hear blah, blah, blah.
The SS is fine though.
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 11:29 am
by jules
Is plod really going to notice, or is there another reason you ask?
Jules
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:22 pm
by Juffa
While it does not explain why, the instructions for my Japanese Spec Flex coil-overs does state that they are not legal for road useage.
J
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:16 pm
by Garry
Ring up the RTA and ask them then report back. Hopefully someone at the RTA will know, but being the RTA you will probably get a different answer from everyone you talk to.
Could they be illegal because they allow the car to be lower than the mimimum legal ride height?
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:14 pm
by CT
Why does it matter? Any aftermarket part is technically illegal unless it comes with a stamp stating ADR approval. If you are worried, don't use them - bit like fitting a pod filter really. The statement on the Tein paperwork is more for litigation than anything.
Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 6:42 pm
by orx626
NoThere are no ADR's for shock absorbers or car suspension, only ride height. The car may not meet the ADR's if ride height is lowered excessively.
All states have agreed to implement the NCOP (National Code of Practice) for light vehicle modifications. The following link contains all requirements for the LS Code - Tyres, Rims, Suspension and Steering.
http://www.dotars.gov.au/transport/safety/road/bulletin/pdf/NCOP11_Section_LS_Suspension_and_steering_3Feb2006.pdf - link fixed!Tein Flex shock absorbers are manufactured for MX5's. MX5 Plus are importing a set for my car.
The car may not meet the LS Code requirements if they are adjusted so that the suspension movement is reduced by more than one third.
I would also like to know where in legislation/code of practice that having an adjustable shock tube length is not compliant/illegal!!! Maybe it's a local marketing ploy to deter people from importing directly from Tein dealers in Japan?
I hope this assists you with your decision making.
Regards,
Danny
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 6:35 am
by JBT
Finally got the answer you wanted.
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 9:08 am
by 16bit
get super street ones then - would they be legal?
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 6:16 pm
by AJ
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 10:59 pm
by Okibi
I have tein flex on our NB8A, it's got W.A. permits so 100% legal (as long as I keep the height it was measured at having then I got the permits which met ADRs).
There's no way i'd lower it anymore than that anyway.