Introducing myself- new member. Problem with the new Mx5

StanTheMan · Postby **StanTheMan** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:50 am

GEES SPAGETTI.....your welcome to have a drive of mine if youre offering a drive of those other cars. :lol:

Postby **Okibi** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 12:17 pm

I was thinking it would be very easy for the dealer to save a few dollars and just tell you they had the alignment checked (while you cat say in their carpark all day).

Did they give you a print out of the before and after alignment figures?

It would be interesting to compare you alignment stats with other NC owners.

AJ · Postby AJ » Sun Apr 13, 2008 1:16 pm

Boags'MX5 wrote:Mate; I have to say I feel very sorry for you. Firstly, you have an MX5 which is clearly not right, then you ask people who might have experience for advice and get shat on.

You guys are out of line: READ THE THREAD before you post.

I hope you get some more sensible posts in future.

Boags

would you not agree Geoff, there are ways to go about asking for help, & ways NOT to go about asking for help?

you know me well enough by now to know that if ANYONE genuinely asks me for a hand, they get it. no questions asked.

Boags · Postby **Boags** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 1:45 pm

AJ wrote:
Boags'MX5 wrote:Mate; I have to say I feel very sorry for you. Firstly, you have an MX5 which is clearly not right, then you ask people who might have experience for advice and get shat on.

You guys are out of line: READ THE THREAD before you post.

I hope you get some more sensible posts in future.

Boags

would you not agree Geoff, there are ways to go about asking for help, & ways NOT to go about asking for help?

you know me well enough by now to know that if ANYONE genuinely asks me for a hand, they get it. no questions asked.

Actually, I was going to make a point of bringing this up at the next run. I found your post unlike you and very defensive. I think you got the wrong impression entirely. I'll send you a PM instead. :wink:

But yes, you are always willing to share wisdom...

Mactype · Postby **Mactype** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:25 pm

on a positive note, have you wandered down to a Mazda dealership and taken another MX5 out for a blat. Least you'll know if the problems are only with your car or it is as the service guy has suggested \"no fault can be found\".

AJ · Postby AJ » Sun Apr 13, 2008 3:10 pm

Spaghetti wrote:
AJ wrote:
Boags'MX5 wrote:Mate; I have to say I feel very sorry for you. Firstly, you have an MX5 which is clearly not right, then you ask people who might have experience for advice and get shat on.

You guys are out of line: READ THE THREAD before you post.

I hope you get some more sensible posts in future.

Boags

would you not agree Geoff, there are ways to go about asking for help, & ways NOT to go about asking for help?

you know me well enough by now to know that if ANYONE genuinely asks me for a hand, they get it. no questions asked.

That seems a little disingenuous. Ive re-read the original post that seems to have so incurred your ire and for the life of me I cant see what you are so upset about. Ive stated the facts as I see the them, offered some background on my history with this car and MX5s generally, asked for opinions from people on this Mx5 web board who have some experience with the Mx5 chassis.

Im at a loss to understand what you find "negative and snotty" i think you said? -about this. Must be that I said my Mx5 is a handling dog. Its a just a car, mate. I wasnt talking about your sister.

You have provided no indication that you do in fact know anything about the Mx5 chassis, and you just seem intent on having a whine. Please find another thread to do it.

*points Geoff at this post*

need i say more?

Boags · Postby **Boags** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 3:23 pm

Postby **Okibi** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:59 pm

What tyre pressures is your NC running?

JBT · Postby **JBT** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:21 pm

I was talking to one of the guys from the club today who just had his NC alignment checked. Yep, out to blazes just like both of ours were. 10mm toe in and positive front camber. The difference after a decent alignment by specialists with calibrated equipment and trained/experienced operators is quite amazing.

Mr Morlock · Postby **Mr Morlock** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:22 pm

I can well understand why AJ was peeved at the original post and at other contradictory emotive and colourful descriptions offered by Spaghetti. There are enough words to clearly give the impression that Mazda do not know their stuff. His car is is so bad \"that it is vague and wanders\" \"nervous on turn in\"\" is simply a dog \"\" while dealers are certainly hopeless with things like alignment\" and he does\" expect to be able to keep it in its lane on the freeway and to drive around a roundabout without the tec cutting in\". This is not a description of a normal NC and you would not need to ask others if their cars had difficulty in staying in their lane. The answers are self evident-.
What is remarkable is that the dealer seems not to recognise there is a problem but perhaps that is because Spaghetti stated that \"before I go to Mazda\"-- has he not done that??
If the car is as bad as described it should not be difficult to get a report or an independent assessment which describes in an engineers terms that the vehicle is not behaving as it should. Which brings me back to the thought is this just a wind up?

Caffeine · Postby **Caffeine** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:46 pm

Holy crap a lot of you got out of the wrong side of bed this morning!

To the OP, your car doesn't sound right. I'd take it to someone you can trust to get it looked at.

I'd suggest maybe a dud shock absorber, which may cause poor wheel to road contact (and hence confusing the traction control etc) as well as giving a sh*t ride.

To the rest of you lot bagging this guy for daring to suggest his MX5 isn't perfect, pull your farking heads in :evil:

It would take me 3 pages of posts to detail all the problems I've had with my car.

This place is meant to assist people to learn about their car. To all those telling him to go ask other people who own the car whether his experience seems normal, I say that's exactly what he's done, and you've crapped all over him. What a nice way to welcome a fellow enthusiast. :roll:

sliq · Postby **sliq** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:48 pm

ditto to what caffeine said..

he's come to us for help, no need to bag him out

Craig · Postby **Craig** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:05 pm

Caffeine wrote:To the rest of you lot bagging this guy for daring to suggest his MX5 isn't perfect, pull your farking heads in It would take me 3 pages of posts to detail all the problems I've had with my car.

This place is meant to assist people to learn about their car. To all those telling him to go ask other people who own the car whether his experience seems normal, I say that's exactly what he's done, and you've crapped all over him. What a nice way to welcome a fellow enthusiast.

QFT...poor form guys... :roll:

JBT · Postby **JBT** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:35 am

Spaghetti wrote:............ I wont even bother to pursue Mazda- they donâ€™t seem to acknowledge the issue....

I think some of the problem is that the alignment may be "within limits" but the range of settings is too broad. The car seems to be very responsive to alignment - be it poor or otherwise.

Spaghetti wrote:No, I donâ€™t use dealerships for wheel alignment.

Generally a good idea. A search of this forum (using the Google function at the bottom of the page) will bring up some recommended aligners in your state/area. Your local MX-5 club, should you or your wife join, can also be a good resource.

Caffeine · Postby **Caffeine** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:34 am

JBT wrote:
Spaghetti wrote:............ I wont even bother to pursue Mazda- they donâ€™t seem to acknowledge the issue....

I think some of the problem is that the alignment may be "within limits" but the range of settings is too broad. The car seems to be very responsive to alignment - be it poor or otherwise.

Indeed, the dealer once 'aligned' my car to have 0.5 degree positive camber :roll: