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Re: FAQ: Clubman
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 11:02 pm
by malibu Q
I've done more reading on this and Miatanet agrees with 93Clubman. It states (
here) that both the NA6CE and the R Package have 12mm rear bars. I think it's more likely that the talk on CR is incorrect.
Re: FAQ: Clubman
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 4:29 pm
by 93_Clubman
Links to pics on page one of this FAQ no longer work since forum issue on 31 Dec 2014:
viewtopic.php?f=52&t=66604Original pics reattached plus some additional:
1993 Mazda MX-5 Clubman (taken Nov 93) ABU-04C was subject of Wheels Magazine article of Jan 94.jpg
Clubman Vehicle Information sticker drivers side B pillar-door jam-used 1992-2002 by Mazda Aust dealers when ordering parts-no rwc implications.JPG
Clubman sticker location.jpg
Bilstein Logo sticker.jpg
CIMG0342.JPG
Re: FAQ: Clubman
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 5:45 pm
by 93_Clubman
CIMG0343.JPG
32af_12.jpg
3262_12.jpg
Bilstein sticker logo.JPG
Clubman Bilsteins 5646_1.jpg
Re: FAQ: Clubman
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 5:48 pm
by 93_Clubman
MX5 Clubman Bilsteins.jpg
1994 Miata R Package.jpeg
Car & Driver October 1994 Miata M & R Package.jpg
Sports Car International #97 August 1994.jpg
Re: FAQ: Clubman
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:11 am
by 93_Clubman
Pic from page two reattached:
MX5 sales in Australia - Anthony White.JPG
Note following are USDM Miata NA colours:
Szemen wrote:MAZDA MX-5 MIATA PAINT COLORS
This info comes from a site called PaintScratch.com, sellers of touch-up kits and paint packages that match original factory colors. All that's been done is compiled the paint codes for each year - it's up to you to check your car and see what matches.
You can find your color by simply opening up your driver door and, on the info sticker on the door jamb, looking for a two- or three-digit paint code.
There are some other special colors listed (late additions, limited-production, etc.) that I don't yet have codes for, or that I'm unsure of the code number for. They're listed "as-is" for the time being.
1990 MAZDA MIATA
3L - Silver Stone Metallic Clearcoat (also coded as 4G; late-year addition)
DU - Mariner Blue
SU - Classic Red
UC - Crystal White
1991 MAZDA MIATA
3L - Silver Stone Metallic Clearcoat (also coded as 4G)
DU - Mariner Blue
HU - British Racing Green (Special Edition only)
SU - Classic Red
UC - Crystal White
1992 MAZDA MIATA
3L - Silver Stone Metallic Clearcoat (also coded as 4G)
6W - Perky Blue Metallic Clearcoat
DU - Mariner Blue
HZ - Sunburst Yellow (extra-cost; only 1519 HZ cars built)
PX - Brilliant Black
PZ - Brilliant Black Clearcoat
SU - Classic Red
UC - Crystal White
1993 MAZDA MIATA
3L - Silver Stone Metallic Clearcoat (also coded as 4G)
DU - Mariner Blue
PX - Brilliant Black
PZ - Brilliant Black Clearcoat
SU - Classic Red
UC - Crystal White
1994 MAZDA MIATA - note that this year's R-package Miatas may carry white or blue racing stripes
3L - Silver Stone Metallic Clearcoat (also coded as 4G)
M8 - Montego Blue Mica Clearcoat (also coded as 2A; only on the 3000 M-Edition models built)
PT - Chaste White
PX - Brilliant Black
PZ - Brilliant Black Clearcoat
SU - Classic Red
-- - Laguna Blue Metallic Clearcoat (only 1797 such cars built)
1995 MAZDA MIATA
3L - Silver Stone Metallic Clearcoat (also coded as 4G)
M8 - Montego Blue Mica Clearcoat (also coded as 2A)
PT - Chaste White
PX - Brilliant Black
PZ - Brilliant Black Clearcoat
SU - Classic Red
-- - Laguna Blue Metallic Clearcoat (only 562 such cars built)
-- - Merlot Mica Clearcoat (only on the 3500 M-Edition models built)
1996 MAZDA MIATA
M8 - Montego Blue Mica Clearcoat (also coded as 2A)
PT - Chaste White
PX - Brilliant Black
PZ - Brilliant Black Clearcoat
SU - Classic Red
-- - Starlight Mica Clearcoat (only on the 2968 M-Edition models built)
1997 MAZDA MIATA
12K - Twilight Blue Mica Clearcoat (only on the 1500 STO models built)
M8 - Montego Blue Mica Clearcoat (also coded as 2A)
PT - Chaste White
PX - Brilliant Black
PZ - Brilliant Black Clearcoat
SU - Classic Red
-- - Marina Green Mica Clearcoat (only on the 3000 M-Edition models built)
Re: FAQ: Clubman
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:54 pm
by wade
Well that explains why my car has a black roof
Re: FAQ: Clubman
Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 1:21 pm
by 93_Clubman
Mazda Australia webpage screenshot mentioning Clubman & some specs:
Mazda Australia webpage1.JPG
Mazda Australia webpage2.JPG
Re: FAQ: Clubman
Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 10:45 am
by Eeyore
Are there any aftermarket springs that match the factory Bilstein shocks?
Re: FAQ: Clubman
Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 12:42 pm
by 93_Clubman
In the past most forumites have used Eibach or King springs on the Clubman Bilsteins. From old posts Eibach springs seemed to be preferred on Clubman Bilsteins, but some also preferred King springs. But Espilier springs (from MX5Plus) have also been used, most notably by tbro to great effect:
viewtopic.php?f=30&t=30330There may also be other springs available these days.
Re: FAQ: Clubman
Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:59 pm
by Eeyore
Maybe the Eibach Mazdaspeed springs would be suitable. We are looking to lower the Clubman and one of my local mechanics insisted that Bilsteins are usually quite sensitive incorrect spring rates and that putting any old lowered spring in the car would ruin the ride.
Re: FAQ: Clubman
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 12:23 pm
by 93_Clubman
A former Pres of NSW MX5 Club spoke with the Bilstein importers about the mismatch between the Clubman shock & spring rates, & was advised Mazda reverted to the stock NA6/NA8 spring at the last moment without telling Bilstein. Result was the very firm ride & bounciness over uneven surfaces as the Bilstiens didn't have enough rebound damping. It would be interesting to know what spring Mazda originally planned to use as they may better suit the Clubman Bilstein.
Heasmans in Sydney or Quadrant Suspensions in Melbourne might know, & certainly revalve & rebuild Clubman Bilsteins with very good results.
Indeed, jonosx on this forum works for, or used to work for, Heasmans: <jonathon.mckinnon@bilstein.com.au>
memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=7587Btw, correction to my previous spelling of the springs tbro used on his Clubman Bilsteins - they were: Espelir
Re: FAQ: Clubman
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 1:41 pm
by hks_kansei
Eeyore wrote:Maybe the Eibach Mazdaspeed springs would be suitable.
Bear in mind that Eibach springs, and the Eibach/Mazdaspeed springs weren't the same specs.
My GF's car had regular Eibach springs in it, and a friend's car has the Mazdaspeed Eibachs in it.
Apart from the visual difference (Eibach = black, Mazdaspeed = grey) there was a difference in spring rates (well, by feel anyway)
The regular Eibach springs felt a little firmer to me than the Mazdaspeed ones, but it's hard to say 100% since the cars were each using different shocks.
When I get home i'll try and dig out the old jap magazine I have that lists the rates, pretty sure it lists both the Eibach and Mazdaspeed versions.
If not, I've got a copy of the old Mazdaspeed catalogue, which should list the Mazdaspeed spring specs.
Re: FAQ: Clubman
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 3:58 pm
by 93_Clubman
MX5 ADM OEM anti-roll bar sizes:
NA6: 19mm Front & 12mm Rear (except on the 1993 NA6 LE which were 19 & 11mm)
NA8: 19mm F & 11mm R (USDM standard Packages: 19mm F & 11mm R)
NA8 Clubman w TorSen: 20mm F & 11mm R (USDM R Package w TorSen: 20mm F & 12mm R)
NB8A: 22mm F & 11mm R
NB8A 10AE w TorSen: 21mm F & 12mm R
NB8B: 22mm F & 12mm R
SP: 22mm F & 12mm R
SE w Torsen: 23mm F & 14mm R
NC1: 21mm F & 12mm R
NC2: 23.5mm F & 11.5mm R
Re: FAQ: Clubman
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 11:20 pm
by chrons_rotary
Does anyone know the VIN range for Clubman models? I.e. are they all random or group together for each year?
I was sold a Clubman, but it didnt have any Bilstein sticker or a door jam sticker, and no Bilsteins.
It did have a T1 TorSen, manual steering, no air con/power steering and a Clubman sticker on the boot lid.
Cheers,
Ken.
Re: FAQ: Clubman
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 9:11 am
by myredmx5
I emailed Mazda all my cars details and they were able to confirm I had a Clubman and even some history.
I think the stickers were something individual dealers did or didn't do.